A good start to July

Lets start things off with the best find. A Victorian toilet pull with advertising for G.B. Thompson/ Plumber/ Larne. Came in a job lot that I bought in a recent auction, Only thing in the box that I wanted and everyone else seemed not to have spotted it.

My 1st one of these ever and as I have come to find out these are rather rare and are quite sought after. I reckon this will be going into my permanent collection.

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A small thistle shaped shot glass from the 1938 Empire Exhibition 1938 held in Glasgow. Amazing that this has survived as the glass is almost paper thin. Probably just one of a hundred different nik naks sold as souviners.

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A pair of labelled ink bottles from Wm Mayall & Co Manchester. The left one being older due to the method of manufacture. It’s known as a shear lip bottle, basically the glass was blown into a mold and the end broken off leaving behind an unfinished rim. Cheap and simple method to produce bottles. On the right, the same method is used but then another blob of glass is added to the top and finished to make a lip, longer process but makes a stronger bottle.

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Left is pre 1900, right is post 1900

3 salt glaze stonware inks, the little one is known as a penny ink or pork pie ink due to it’s resemblance of one. The taller ones are made by Lovett & Watt Co.

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A lovely Blue print Belfast Ginger Beer. This is one of those bottles where the blue prints are easier to find than the black prints. Another that springs to mind is also a Belfast Bottle (Wm Corry & Co).

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This is a nice little, fairly modern milk bottle. Local to me in a sense, while it would take an hour or more to drive round the coast to get here, I can in fact grab a ferry that gets me there in 15 minutes as it is only 5 miles across Lough Foyle as the crow flies.

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The following are just observations from an auction I visited.

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12 1/2 CHurch street?

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Extremely rare oil bottle, hammer price £170.

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Bootsale Buys, Club Swaps & Auction finds – April – June 2017

An image dump of my finds from the past 10 weeks or so. I’ve been to loads of bootsales since the weather picked up, had a bottle club swap meet and been to a very cool auction that contained well over a 1000 lots from a private collection spanning 60 years.

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Hamilton Todd – Coleraine

Unusual shaped glass bottle, in the style of  earlier ginger beer stoneware bottles. Dates to 1940’s, possibly made to commemorate a special event. I’ve already added this to the previous post “Coleraine”.

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Small timetable for LMS NCC 1946 booklet, not hugely interesting other than the ad on the inside cover for The Railway Hotel Portrush.

Again not super interesting but it’s a courtesy map of Ballymena given by a no longer in operation auctioneer & estate agents. Cool ad inside for the Ford Capri, which helps date it too.

Picked up a few other bottles and things but common stuff that I have since sold on.

Club Meet

The Irish Antique Bottle Collectors Club, who up until 20th may had been a virtual one only had a swap meet in Dundalk at Fitzpatricks Bar. I swapped a few, sold a few and bought a few.

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Maddens mineral water co – Londonderry Codds

The one on the left is the one I traded a Dundalk Whisky for, I found the N. Carolans at the bootsale a week earlier. Very fortunate considering the meet was in Dundalk and the swap was with a Dundalkian.. Dundalker?

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Watt & Co Applied Lip Seltzer Bottle

This was bought from the founder of said club, a crown top seltzer bottle. A.A Watt was one of the biggest companies in Derry and have some 57 different bottles but this is probably in the top ten (of theirs) most difficult to come by.

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N. Lancashire Chemists Ballymena

Bought the blob top at the meet and the Codd at an antique shop on the way home from Dundalk. Pleased with both but more so with the codd as it is extremely sought after.

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The Braid Mineral Water Company

A very hard to come buy 6oz swing stopper with Boar pictorial. Especially with bail and stopper attached and original.

Auction

This auction was held 10th June at premises in Rasharkin, the collection was built up over 60 years by one person and was contained in 3 very large sheds. It had everything from steam traction engines to signs to antique tools and of course my favourites, bottles.

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James Holmes & Co/ Cromac St./ Belfast

This was a seemingly unheard of codd and has already went to a codd collector. I bought it with the intention of moving on as codds aren’t my forte.

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Hugh Anderson/ Coleraine

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This I believe was my star buy at this auction, a 3.5 Gallon Slab Seal Flagon in what I think is original wicker basket. I have been able to date this quite accurately to between 1870 & 1873. The amount of dirt and grease may put some people off but I love it.

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Trayders “waiters tray”

This is the 2nd one of these I’ve come across this year, I swapped the 1st one I had and kinda regretted it. I gladly grabbed this one even if I did pay a little too much for it. I’ve treated this one with rust converter to stave off any further damage.

That’s it for now, another lifetime collection auction to go to this Saturday and a bootsale on Sunday so stay tuned.

Thanks for reading and if you have any questions and perhaps would like to buy something or have any bottles to sell/swap send me a message.

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Coleraine

Before County Londonderry was called that it was known as County Coleraine, so it’s namesake town of almost 25,000 people has always been a prominent place within the North West.

Situated on the River Bann it rose during Victorian times to be an important port town being only 5 miles along the river to Lough Foyle. Noted for it Linens, Salmon & Whiskey.

In 1861 there where at least 7 Spirit Dealers/Merchants and 15 Pubs & 7 Hotels in town jumping in 1880 to 30 & 18 respectively. So it’s no surprise that there are Bottles and flagons out there, though at this point it’s anyone guess how many.

McLaughlins

Patrick McLaughlin listed in 1901 having premises in the Waterside and the Diamond, this particular flagon is a late one probably 1900/10.

A 1 Gallon version with P McLaughlin, a bit older probably 1885ish

John McLaughlin listed in 1852 at Preaching House Lane (now Church Street), 1901 as having premises at Brook Street and ceased trading by 1918. Going by the crudeness of the letters and the darkness of the glaze I date this to 1880s.

Hamiton Todd & Co

Listed in 1907 BSD at premises on Circular road as a Mineral Water Manufacturer, seemingly taking over James Birch’s Mineral Water manufactory after his death in 1905.

It seems he was in business right up until his death in 1951 at which point Lyle & Kinahan of Belfast bought the business and ran it as a subsidiary under the original name.

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Stoneware bottle with Coleraine Coat of Arms, no idea at present where Brookfield Works are. My hypothesis is that their location at Circular Road looks out onto a small Brook and perhaps they named their factory after such. This is most likely the first style of bottle they used as stoneware would have been the go to medium of aerated waters up until about 1920, it’s a swing stopper closure and would have had a ceramic lid no doubt with their name printed on.

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They would have slowly started moving to glass as it became cheaper and I would say this bottle existed alongside the stoneware for a short period. Dates to 1910

Crown capped bottle, still an early bottle as it is an applied lip. 1920’s

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I, along with a few others had assumed that this pictorial was of a dog, a greyhound or similar. With this sharp embossing however it’s clear to see that this is in fact a Fox with its bushy tail. Further supported as Todd is derived from the old english word Tod which translates as Fox and as such appears on various Todd coat of Arms.

This a much later machine-made bottle, with manufacturing processes being refined, more elaborate designs could be moulded. 1940’s

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Another version with the Hamilton Todd coat of arms.

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As you can see evidence of the take over of Lyle & Kinahan, 1951 onwards

Anderson & Stewart

Originally two separate address’ on Church Street, Hugh Anderson in 17a & John Stewart in 17b.

Hugh inherited the business in 1871 from his uncle Alexander who operated as a General Merchant. It’s unclear to me if John Stewart was in business at 17b or simply living there, either way the 2 address’ became one in 1874 and thus the Anderson & Stewart Spirit Merchants was born.

Hugh died in 1899 leaving John the business, it’s unclear when John passed away but the business operated until the 1960’s.

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For the brief period of 3 years that Hugh ran his own business he dabbled in Spirits and this is where we get this behemoth 3 1/2 Gallon Flagon from. A slab seal impressed with H.Anderson/ Coleraine. Notice how the potter failed to cut of a few of the crescents, it’s little things like this that make me like collecting.

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In original dirt covered wicker basket, all 145 years worth, this was bought at an auction in Rasharkin June 2017 and by all accounts had been sitting in a corner of a shed untouched for 50 years.

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Rather less impressive this machine-made beer bottle from the 1950’s, would have had a paper label and probably a pictorial cap.

I will update this blog as I find more bottles from these main companies and may even do a part 2 as more items turn up.

 

 

 

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More Bottles…

A nice little trio all picked up within a few days of each other. It’s like that old phrase, you wait for ages for a bottle and 3 show up at once…

 

Defineitly the most ornate designed bottle I have, what with the corn cobs and sheild design and my 1st Guinness Stout Bottle. Shame about the lip, but beggars can’t be choosers.

Really dark glass, applied lip bottle for City Bottling Co, Londonderry. This along with the Osborne Patton above where found at the pub down the road from me and a trade was done.

R.A.Austin Chemist, (the) Diamond, Londonderry. No doubt belonging to Austins Department store which had been trading for well over 100 years up until last year that is when they closed for good.

John Crawford, Wholsale Merchant, Larne. I have a glass beer bottle from this comapany, which I think I’ve shown on the blog before. There is some controversy with this bottle, I and a few others believe it is a coffee/chicory essence bottle and others think Whisky. It’s 12fl oz which is an unusual size for a Whisky bottle. Maybe it’s an all purpose bottle that you could get filled with whatever took your fancy. Research on going.

Just a nice shot from me playing with my camera.

Fairly modern bottles in an old barn, nice for photos but that’s it.

80’s Harp bottles. unopened.

A gift from a far flung family member, who worked on the railway lines for years. Finding the odd bottle while doing maitainance. This is a very local milk, from a dairy that had a very short life span, 1935-1960.

This is a fairly plain bottle but  bonus points for having Derry printed rather than Londonderry. I would say for every 10 “Londonderry” bottles, you find 1 “Derry” bottle. It has a big brother but with a much fancier design.

Ferris, Londonderry. Blue print, impressed. My first, very hapy with this! Came across this after a plea on a FB buy/sell/swap page. They’re out there, you just gotta let people know you’re looking!

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Wide mouth milk bottles – Ulster, Ireland 

My fledgling wide mouth milk bottle collection. I hadn’t really intended to collect them but I’ve picked them up here and there over the past year or so and relatively cheaply too. All where around the 5 buck mark.

L to R;

  • B.Hazelton – Dungannon, Pyro label.
  • Dhu Varren Dairy (DVD) – Portrush.
  • Killyman Dairy – Moy.
  • Porters Glenside Dairyc – Hannahstown
  • Lowry – Belfast
  • S.J. Wright Deerpark Dairy – Belfast

Before foil caps where the fashion these where sealed with cardboard lids, some would use generic lids with advertising on or their own personalized ones. I have yet to see one with it’s corresponding lid.

The pyro label is a little faded in places but I rub some olive oil over it every now and again and it shines like new. I’ve seen people fill them with polystyrene balls and I have to say that it looks rather good, if I get anymore labelled ones I might do just that.

The lips on these bottles are very thick and they seem to survive very well, unlike later thinner glass milk bottles that can smash from being looked at with and angry scowl.

I do have a small collection of later milk bottles, they aren’t as pretty but are becoming very collectible in there own right. I’ve had a digger tell me that he used to kick them back in the whole in the 80’s and he is now visiting his old dig sites as people are begging him for them.

Who knows, I may keep them or I may not, if a good swap comes along there gone.

 

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January Bootsale & Barn Finds

Some really fantastic stuff recently.

A lovely heavy bar serving tray for “The Belfast Mineral Water Co” This was actually from an ad on Gumtree, usually about once a year I find something worth the hassle.

Interestingly most trays of this era where made by J.A. campbell & co Belfast, so it’s nice to find one with another makers name on.

Up next a moderate condition bottle crate from IB Company, Belfast. IB standing for Irish Bottle. Not to be confused with IGB ( Irish Glass Bottlers) that where based at Ringsend, Dublin. 

Has had a bit of a clean, I know I know, they say not to clean anything when it comes to antiques but it needed it. It had 80 years sitting in an old mechanics garage and was covered in greasy dust.


The best for last, 1 Gallon Whiskey Flagon from Watt & Co Ltd Letterkenny. Harder to find than the Londonderry varity and such this has already gone to a new home. A bar owner/Collector in New York City, U.S.A.

I didn’t mind letting it go, I do collect stoneware but only bottles and this is too big for the shelves anyway.

Bonus – This is some stuff that I’ve seen recently but havent bought

Nice chemist label from Coleraine, I think original bottle too.

Apparently fairly common down Dublin way, anti-curd mixture?

James Mulhern Enniskillin Soda Syphon. Missing top so I didn’t bother with a bid. Bottle to the right is an english codd, preston if your interested.

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Hunter’s Millers Limavady

This was a well earned find, I had to climb into and old abandoned, partially callapsed Railway station storeroom.

Then it was a case of crawling underneath a raised platform where, I no doubt 100+ years of rat activity was present. Worth it.

This Hessian sack dates to around the 50’s, more or less confirmed by a gentleman who worked there as a kid. He’s sure plastic didn’t appear till early 60’s.

It’s double sided but hell if I can make it out. Faded to time, this was the side that was facing the elements.

The Mill would have been located directly beside the Bakery at the corner of Market st. & Irish green st.

The Mill is no longer there replaced by a supermarket. The Bakery however is still there, curning out 100’s of pastries, buns, cakes and breads per day. They make a damn fine sandwhich too.

I have a plan to slightly mend this and get it framed, I have a feeling there aren’t too many of these left. I’ll get a pic up as and when it gets done.

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